There’s something about a community culture that, more often than not, treats a lack of tests as a defect in itself, compared to one that’s been ravaged by “Have a WEBSITE for $10”- and “Learn X in 21 Seconds”-level stupidity.

Yes, I’m aware that tools are maturing and that there are several folks in the PHP community putting in legendary effort to change attitudes. I truly wish them luck; they’re going to need more than the world has yet known.

More likely to be an old-school PHP guy than a Rubyist.

Jeff Dickey

Software and Web developer. Tamer of deadlines. Enchanter of stakeholders.